but i think -- >> rose: better than what, john mccain. >> yes. >> rose: but that's not the standard. >> fair enough. but i think it was probably reflective also of the economy because it's so difficult to get a job now for college graduates. but you know what, i think that rather than looking at i think in individual segments, hat hopefully it will be about the business of come vague a message that will bring a lot of people. and i think that exchangers we should start looking at it in segments. it's dangerous in the sense that it's not how our society should operate. >> rose: you're not prepared to accept the idea that the democrats had a better campaign organization and a better strategy and a better execution, or does the fact that they won by definition say that? >> i think by the fact that they won it says that. >> rose: so they -- >> it was a campaign they could have lost but they won. >> rose: so the president's staff beat the governor's staff. >> i would say they ran a better, they ran, the person who wins always runs a better campaign in my book. the faster, the person who w